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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 22 2009, 04:10 PM (1,224 Views) | |
| Robert Weizer | Aug 22 2009, 04:10 PM Post #1 |
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Want answers to questions you don't know the answer to, no matter how much you feel you might get laughed at? I know I do, and some other people might like it too. My first question: I haven't seen the Zeta movies since I'd rather watch the series, but precisely what does Amuro pilot if anything? I notice the Dijeh is marked TV Only on MAHQ. |
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| Arado Balanga | Aug 22 2009, 04:53 PM Post #2 |
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What? You can't be tired, you can sleep in the grave.
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Amuro pilots a Rick Dias during the Hong Kong arc and the Dijeh during the Kilimanjaro arc in Zeta. The Dijeh only appears in the TV series, as the entire Dakar/Kilimanjaro arc was dropped from the movies. SRW Z took some liberties and made the Dijeh a secret unlockable, even though it never appeared in the movies. |
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| Mech_wagon | Sep 5 2009, 11:12 PM Post #3 |
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Iv watched the 00 series , but only the second half was in "raw" form , did they give a reason why the Exia`s GN sword was remolded into the Kai form , was the blade stronger against other beam sabers, and also is Exia repairII able to trans-am? |
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| Homeless One | Sep 5 2009, 11:30 PM Post #4 |
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1) The new blade on the GN Sword Kai is stronger and sharper than the material that preceded it. 2) Its fully capable of Trans Am. |
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| Robert Weizer | Sep 7 2009, 12:08 PM Post #5 |
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I forgot: How far in the UC timeline is V Gundam? Isn't it in the 100-200somethings? Also: What unlicensed and translated Gundam novels/manga can I find besides Crossbone? |
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| PrayerReverie | Sep 7 2009, 12:53 PM Post #6 |
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U.C. 153 is when Victory begins. Why don't you go find a copy of the licensed Gundam trilogy novels. |
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Sep 7 2009, 03:50 PM Post #7 |
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First off, you owe it to yourself to find the following that HAS been licensed: -Mobile Suit Gundam's Novel Trilogy. You owe it to yourself to read this one, honestly. -Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 (blends movie and TV continuity together... sadly dropped before completion) -Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Astray plain/R/X (fills in the gaps of Seed) -Gundam Wing: Battlefield of Pacifists (about as official as we get for an 'in between' story) -Gundam Wing: Episode Zero (adapted from discarded scripts, official) -Gundam Wing: Blind Target (adapted from an audio drama, official) -Gundam Wing: Ground Zero (nearly a doujin in terms of story, licensed by Viz for the hell of it) -Gundam Wing: Last Outpost/G-Unit (fantastic sidestory) -Mobile Suit Gundam: Lost War Chronicles -Mobile Suit Gundam: Blue Destiny -Mobile Suit Gundam: Ecoule du Ciel (I keep hearing this one's been abandoned...) There's also manga versions of G-Gundam and Gundam Wing/Endless Waltz, but aside from some of the chibi comics in the first two... it's not worth getting aside from seeing how screwed up the story becomes when 50 episodes are compressed into 12 chapters. And in Wing's case, you get to see the original ending of the series, apparently. ...oh, and I personally went back and retranslated all of Wing's manga (and used the official translations and scripts) so it would make sense - and the uploaded it onto Mangatraders. Feel free to take a look at that one. After the OFFICIALLY LICENSED AND EASY TO FIND books are done, then there's the following: Mobile Suit Gundam Crossbone/Gaiden/Skull Heart/Steel Seven. Essentially, Crossbone is the sequel to F91... and is ok. It was continually hyped up as awesome and epic by the few who'd read it, but the actual manga itself is continually average. There are cool moments and fun fights, but the actual story itself felt bland to me. Gaiden/Skull Heart/Steel Seven are the spinoffs of Crossbone, and I actually far prefer THEM to the main Crossbone series. But that's me. The REST of the Astray saga: Destiny/Delta/FRAME... and there might be another one in there somewhere. Destiny was fun, but actually kinda created plotholes rather than solved them. Delta was shit of the highest caliber (but, being Astray, it was still better than Destiny was at some points) and FRAME isn't quite as good as it should have been. Mobile Suit Gundam Sentinel. A ZZ-sidestory, this novel can be found in a collection of text files, if you're lucky. There's not a whole lot to it, nor did I find it overly fantastic, but it was still average to read through. Gundam Sosei. The 'true story' of how Gundam was created. Currently being released once a month in Japan, up to chapter six has been translated. It's awesome. Mobile Suit Gundam-San. A rather lengthy and awesome 4Koma comic about Gundam, this is literally the best location for Gundam humor these days. It's somewhat juvenile at points, but seeing Char turned into a lazy bastard is pretty awesome. For a bonus, there are stories about other things too - such as Garma's childhood and how the Zabis rose to power, as well as a series of tales about Captain Zaku. All I need to say is that Captain Zaku is awesome. That's all that comes to my mind, though. |
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| Arado Balanga | Sep 7 2009, 04:20 PM Post #8 |
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What? You can't be tired, you can sleep in the grave.
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Add-on to S3's post: There are the novelizations and manga counterparts to both SEED and Destiny out there. However, for the G/Wing mangas and Blue Destiny, you may have to seriously dig through bargain bins or track down stores that carry out-of-print and/or older manga. And I have been hearing rumors that someone is going to translate the Victory Gundam side-story (with the black V2 and more awesomeness from Grey Stoke) as well as Counterattack of Gigantis, but I'm not holding my breath for that. |
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| Robert Weizer | Sep 7 2009, 06:09 PM Post #9 |
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i have the novel sitting on the floor next to me but yeah, I need to find a good site for obtaining this stuff, kinda tight on funds atm |
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Sep 7 2009, 06:24 PM Post #10 |
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Sadly, those Seed novels are pretty much exactly the same as the main series... and the manga, released in the USA by Del Rey, is pure shit. The art is horrible, the script is worse and... the translation? "Launch the Dual Buster!" "Drop a Goon behind us..." "Yzak Joule and Deakka Elthsman fought in JINNs at Yakin Doe" ...yeah. It wasn't until their sixth Gundam release (volume 2 of Seed Destiny) where the translator magically realized that there are OFFICIAL TRANSLATIONS of all these names and got his act together. And then wrote a letter for the front pages of the book that basically said "since you fuckers are so damned whiny, take your damned wierd shit and shut the fuck up" in a far more polite terminology. |
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| PrayerReverie | Sep 7 2009, 07:59 PM Post #11 |
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I was under the impression the SEED novels got canned after the third installment? |
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Sep 7 2009, 08:02 PM Post #12 |
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Yeah, they were. Tokyopop decided they weren't worth the effort. Del Rey, on the other hand, has the horribly-done manga... which they made worse. It's like a collective of QUALITY, concentrated as much as possible. |
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| PrayerReverie | Sep 7 2009, 08:07 PM Post #13 |
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Yeah, sadly I picked up all of the SEED manga volumes before realized what utter crap they were. The completionist in me wants to pick up the Destiny manga, but the rest of me refuses. |
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| Imperial | Sep 10 2009, 11:25 AM Post #14 |
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Don't bother with any of these. They're awful. It's also worth noting that while Blue Destiny is a lot of fun and bounces around some cool ideas, the manga adaptation is incomplete. It seems the (Japanese) company behind it went belly up, so it was never finished. That said, Blue Destiny still manages to be one of the more entertaining Gundam spin-offs. |
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Sep 10 2009, 07:28 PM Post #15 |
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G-Unit wasn't really bad, it just felt a bit rushed at some points, which means that some ideas that could have stood expansion don't get it. It gets kind of confusing when you look at the official AC timeline and note things like the four-month gap between Odell's "death" and the first use of the Aesculapius. As for Blue Destiny, it has an interesting plot, but the problem is that the "standard" characterization for Yuu is pretty much "blank slate", since he's a player surrogate (hence the punny name, and sometimes alternate translation "You Kajima"). Only in the manga does he have any real personality to speak of, though more recent appearances in things like G Generation have started making him quite hot blooded. |
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Sep 10 2009, 09:40 PM Post #16 |
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Yu Kajima also managed a good show in a chapter of the currently Japan-only "Gundam Legacy" serial manga that was in Gundam Ace- that particular chapter detailed his adventure as a Jegan pilot during the time of Char's Counterattack. Sadly, I don't have that particular issue of Gundam Ace with me at the moment, otherwise I would give an issue number. =\ |
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| Robert Weizer | Sep 12 2009, 06:35 PM Post #17 |
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can someone summarize SEED Destiny's story for me so I'm not so lost when I play Z/GGenWars? |
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| PrayerReverie | Sep 12 2009, 06:43 PM Post #18 |
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Plotholes, ideal of Freedom vs. ideal of Destiny, Kira-hax, Saviour-transformation-spammage, beam-spammage In reality if you don't want to watch it, just read the episode summary/reviews at mahq.net |
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Sep 12 2009, 07:48 PM Post #19 |
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Yeah, you don't need to watch SEED Destiny. In fact, Z does it a lot better than the series itself did. |
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| ImpAtom | Sep 12 2009, 07:51 PM Post #20 |
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There are three factions: ZAFT is lead by Gilbert Durandal, and is the army of the PLANTs, a group of space colonies populated by Coordinators, who are genetic Superhumans. The main pilot is Shin Asuka, a former Orb resident who holds a great hatred for Orb and the Alliance, and deep-seated anger towards those who fail to protect the weak. He pilots Impulse Gundam, and later Destiny Gundam. ZAFT's stated goal is world peace. The leader, Durandal, actually is using the war as a basis to enact his Destiny Plan, a idea for world peace which involves total control of humanity. The Earth Alliance is an alliance of Naturals, or unmodified humans, who hold deep-seated hatred towards Coordinators. Their main pilots are Neo Lorrnoke and the Extended Humans, who are brainwashed pilots designed to be able to fight on-par with Coordinators. Neo Lorrnoke is a brainwashed Mwu La Flaga, a pilot from SEED. The Earth Alliance's stated goal is protecting their people from the unnatural Coordinators. In reality, they are being used by an organization called LOGOS, who seeks to profit from the war. The third faction is Terminal. Terminal is made up primarily of the protagonist from Gundam SEED. At the beginning of the war, they are living their lives peacefully, but an assassination attempt on Lacus Clyne by Coordinator forces causes them to enter the war again. Their goal is stopping the war, accomplished using armed intervention. They form a "third faction" in most fights they appear, and Kira Yamato's Freedom Gundam disables both ZAFT and Earth Alliance forces. Eventually, they make enemies of ZAFT, leading to bitter conflicts between the two until it culminates in the final battle, which is the combined forces of the nation of Orb and Terminal versus the ZAFT military. Midway through the series, the major focus of the show changes over from Shin Asuka to Kira Yamato, with Shin becoming the series' antagonist. This is why you'll have two path splits in Z, and why GGen Wars makes Shin your enemy in the EX Stages. I think that is basically everything you need to know. |
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| Nimbus | Sep 12 2009, 08:59 PM Post #21 |
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Is Setsuna actually a Gundam? |
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| Robert Weizer | Sep 12 2009, 10:00 PM Post #22 |
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Thanks ImpAtom. Kinda makes me realize why the ZEUTH/ZAFT routes exist. |
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| ImpAtom | Sep 12 2009, 11:03 PM Post #23 |
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Setsuna is a Raiser. |
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Sep 14 2009, 05:45 PM Post #24 |
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During the final battle of Destiny, Shinn attempted to block Athrun's beam sabers with Destiny's hands, but failed. I don't think he used the palm cannons during his failed attempt. So my question is, would Destiny be able to block a beam saber with its hands if it uses the Palma Fiocina? |
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| ImpAtom | Sep 14 2009, 06:13 PM Post #25 |
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Depends. The Palma Fiocina's actual effects are not made very clear other then "Shin puts hand on head, explode," and a scene where you see blue beams. (Generation of C.E also have him firing blue beams from the hand.) Perfect mission has him firing weird rings that launch the Core Fighter, but let's ignore that for the moment since Domon does the same thing. The way it could work is that it's a high-powered beam cannon or something located in the hand, and the Destiny Finger is just Shin pressing it to the enemy and launching a point-blank blast. In which case, it probably couldn't "catch" the beam saber, but it could maybe halt the swing for a moment or break the field that contains the saber and go right through it. I think it depends on the weapon's actual output. Kira is shown to block regular beam shots with a beam saber, so it depends on what the output of a blue beam is. The actual shots appear to be roughly the size of a beam rifle shot, but Shin's point-blank range attack seems to be tremendously powerful. Of course, that could be simply because it's a point-blank beam shot. If it is some kind of actual melee weapon, I can't see why it couldn't block the saber unless its output is ridiculously lower then the saber. |
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